It frigging owns Venmo, yall. should I be so emotionally drained by managing? Why did you default to the OP being a woman? I guess my larger point is that even if reimbursed, its still on the OP to manage these charges on her personal card, to do the legwork of chasing people down to get paid back, having to worry about how to approach the boss about his share in an office where many coworkers have felt more comfortable simply paying for him in the past, making change for people, etc. WebRepeat every single day. I was responding to a different comment. 3) Forcing everyone to place their own orders and pay the restaurant directly online. If there are 5 entry teapot analysts and 1 of them specifically is asked to order lunch more often than the other 4 entry teapot analyst then yes they should speak up. We are in an open office space with our CEO, but he seems to be entirely oblivious to these conversations.. I finally told him dude It wasnt the tech it was trusting the wrong person.. However, without straight out asking to be reimbursed for personal funds laid out, nobody knows what his response will be. When he comes by your office to talk "excuse me, I'm very busy" and ignore any further questions. Good grief. It would also color my opinion about her general critical thinking abilities. Depends on her career. I agree, except I dont think the OP should make an excuse. Amen to this. Doesnt he review the credit card statements and notice that theres no Jims Steakout charge, ever?). Or just double checking with another coworker that has handled the ordering and find out what theyve done. so I can use that option. Always assumed that group lunch orders were being handled by the office manager who had the corporate card. CEO $728 (you owe for the last 5 months) He literally never knew why he was always assigned the first row seat until six months later he commented on it while we were traveling together. We are in an open office space with our CEO, but he seems to be entirely oblivious to these conversations. So very, truly, happy that I dont have to do that anymore. Those sorts of assumptions about people are unhealthy and breed discontent. Fifty-nine percent confided in their work spouse about problems at home, and more than a third discussed their sex life with their work spouse. I am not a paid spokesperson just a fan. Do he sits *right there* hearing them arrange pay back and doesnt offer his shareever?! Id be hunting down names but Im a savage like that. I find it offputting to unload this on a junior team member. We knew that we would have to fight extra hard for jobs because of a traffic jam in the generation ahead of us. Yes, its one thing to occasionally decide to all call out for lunch, but dont make it part of your regular duties just b/c you are the most junior. update: is my future manager a bigoted jerk? Agreed, as a 20-something Venmo lover, but Id always say something first! 5pm email: Hi Bashful I picked up my lunch when you werent there and have been tied up ever since. Youll be happy to keep placing the orders but from now on, you need to use someone elses card or a company card. Dont judge someone by the fact that they dont want to use an electronic payment app, its pretty common. In a company of 5 I wouldnt find it at all weird if the CEO approved expenses, here its the managers job no matter how senior. Ha! Many CEOs (not all of course!) At this moment, what is your strongest emotion? Theon $13 Has anyone actually asked him to pay directly? Why not just send out an email to everyone ordering when their totals after. With a seemingly hands-off, fairly oblivious CEO there may be someone who is his right-hand employee that can give advice. Its not about age ever. He wasn't rich or anything. They dont have corporate cards, so she has the details of one of his personal credit cards saved on her computer. When the only person doing this is wealthy and priviledged, how is it making up a story to think this is a factor? And no manager worth doing that for would ever want you to.. Im glad you eventually got paid and that hes generally just a weirdo when it comes to thinking hes super special for treating his employees. Im an EA and catering/lunches are absolutely part of my regular duties. You open your mouth and you say words. Or stop going out altogether. Wait. If the CEO has his own assistant, who works specifically for him and not as a general admin support person for the entire team, that person wouldnt necessarily coordinate lunch orders for everyone. I thought that they were offering to buy me the drink, not giving me a loan! Well, thats awfully unkind and oblivious to power dynamics. But those were firings for cause, not layoffs I guess a layoff could be different, if they were (for example) getting rid of an entire department or closing a branch office. Why spend a tonne on a man when youre just dating, even if you have as much money as Paris Hilton? Also plenty of people who are not boomers do not use Venmo because of security issues. Its the most junior employee in the office asking the CEO for cash. If being too busy for lunch duty doesnt solve the issue, i would bring it up with your team lead. I doubt that he thinks that its on a company card, hes the CEO of a micro sized company, he knows that these arent hitting the books and you dont regularly fill out an expense report the same way youd do in a large company. You seem really young in your career, but I can pretty much guarantee a little pro-activeness/assertiveness will resolve this issue. He said hes anti-Venmo and it would be extremely odd if hes able to completely tune out every single repayment discussion. Obliviousness, indifference, or selfishness are arent the sole domain of any one race or gender. It doesn't matter if you didn't ask him to offer to buy you lunch, he's making it Hell. Race does matter, because we live in a society where it impacts all kinds of things. At least yall liked him enough to put up with that kind of weird petty cheapskate ways. You said hes been within earshot of conversations about paying for lunch but thats not the same as telling him he owes a certain amount. Making ageist assumptions about your boss or anyone else is going to backfire on you big time. If he doesnt want to trust an app, I would think at least cash should still be a legal option. No, thats a pretty valid reason IMO. She gets his lunch every day and found it was easier to just save the card number, order online, then go and pickup the lunch. One participant in the Vault study wrote, "My wife even calls her [my coworker] my second wife. But if the company is that small, it can also be easier to raise the issue. So, this is probably just a dumb question, but is there some reason boss cant pay you back in cash? WebSo here are your 6 rules to follow before you buy a man a gift: Rule No.1 Spending more doesnt make you more valuable as a woman. Several years ago, I attended a business dinner about 9 or 10 people at a conference. Everyone places their own individual order (cant blame anyone for messing it up) under their name, and pays from their account with their individual card no need to hound people for payment afterwards. Not the option you use as the most junior person in the office to the CEO. But the work environment can be tough and slightly different. ;). Please do some reading on it, but this isnt the place to debate it so lets leave it here. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but because the office is so small and it seems like there are enough conversations going on that would lead most people to realize they need to pay, I think I would approach this more directly than I would otherwise. When he continuously buys you lunch does he like you more than a friend? Sorry but this sounds less like oblivious and more like deliberate. Its not a story, its a likely explanation. I thought that was bizarre behavior. I am wondering what people think about this. A few months back my mom said you spend an awful lot of time making up in your mind what people think about you, and its always negative. Best Answers to This Situation! And if they say my personal card, Well. I would still have to do expense reports and reimbursement, so I just use mine (fortunate to have an accounting team that reimburses expenses within one week) for the points/rewards. I generally try to look for the charitable interpretation first, rather than automatically think the worst. It's good news for single workers looking for love and increasingly stuck at work -- but more treacherous for those in committed relationships. Your lunch bill is $xx for the Oct-Dec lunches, payable to OPs name. If someone asks to you pick up their order from ABC, you respond with Sorry, Im heading to XYZ and need to run an errand on the way. This is the second time my coworker had bought lunch for me. He would not sign the check (lord I hope theyve finally gone paperless!) (a) Escalate to someone above him, taking note of the cautions in #3. The tone you want here is utterly matter-of-fact, as if of course hell settle up once he knows what he owes (both because thats probably the case and because taking that tone makes things less awkward for everyone). I was in this exact situation at work. Otherwise, not really into it! Those little boomer slights are tiring. Maybe he thinks owing the OP means owing the corporate card, maybe hes totally oblivious, and maybe he knows exactly whats happening and doesnt care. Let your boss accept the check and pay for it. What do you bring? Gen X is invisible because we are not big enough to be marketed to. They don't just buy it for me AT work. Whether complimenting your taste for shoes or picking you first for the flag football team, coworkers who really like you express The boss is probably just clueless. ", To get right, you have to "back pedal," Houston said. If the boss even has an assistant, that would be a good person to ask, but in an office of 5 people, maybe he doesnt have one. Seconding Ritual. A study last year by career information site Vault.com found that 28 percent of those surveyed said they had an office "husband" or "wife," while a survey of 640 white-collar workers from digital programming and advertising firm Captivate Network found that 65 percent of the employees have or have had a "work spouse.". Gurl, thats just normal retention behavior, it doesnt mean that your staff ever owe you a free lunch. Its probably why she hasnt asked for a company card. Ive just placed my order online for for 12pm pick up. No one has mentioned it since. Girlfriend used my debit card without my permission. If he buys you lunch does he like you more than a friend? Yep, and also were supposed to be grateful for getting a paycheck above minimum wage. If hes been C-suite for a while, hes probably used to an assistant who has his card information ordering his lunch and assumes youre doing something similar. Ask me how I know that this will work. I get that you suspect that theyre paying for him, but is it possible that they arent and they know something you dont about how to get the money? I dont know what that makes me in terms of generation labels, but my kids both come to me for tech support. If you have a door you can close, close it. you can certainly accumulate tons of reward points (same goes for booking plane tickets = free miles, etc.). Lots of companies that are that small dont have corporate credit cards available or are very weird about how theyre used. My company couldnt get unsecured credit, so we had a secured credit card, which was a pain. But its not like theres some magical third option out thereeither OP takes the tiny risk that the request will anger the CEO or they dont. You may want to consider doing that as well. Either way, the LW is under the impression that it may be caused by privilege. Buy them an umbrella. Sucks for them, since their accounting stinks and therefore they have to pre-pay everything. The youngest are 55, so there are still plenty in offices. I fronted the money today, here is the breakdown of what everyone owes. I hadnt even considered that not having a tape deck was a possibility and didnt notice until I drove the damn thing home. Makes It easier. The tricky part is that this has been going on for a while without OP asking for money. If you're on business trips, meet in the conference rooms or lobby, not in hotel rooms. But there were warning signs before the situation got to the breaking point, she said. I put in my resignation yesterday. Stewed for months. It sounds like OP is the admin (or at least takes on the admin responsibilities). I dont know that I would ask for reimbursement for past meals, but I dont see that its that hard to say hey CEO, your part of the meal was x. single. While I also think mentioning the fact that hes always had money is a littlegratuitous, I just cant believe that you dont see the power imbalance and awkwardness here. assigning women extra work to help them, calling out when youre in the ER, and more. If the CEO simply refuses to pay his share, or you get in trouble for speaking up, another option would be to simply bring your own lunch and not join in with the others when they order lunch. I dont assume any good or bad intentions on the part of the CEO, but the letter writer seems to be. WebIf I go to lunch with a coworker/colleague, male or female, I wouldn't volunteer this info to husband either unless he specifically asks me what I did for lunch. If there is someone in the office who OP trusts to give good advice, I recommended going to that person to ask how people typically approach the CEO for reimbursement. Separate checks for life. In a company of 5 people, Id be surprised if he had an admin assistant. Nor do I think people will hyper-focus on her personal card use and call her out if she uses it for non-emergencies in the future. You've crossed the line, Houston said, if you're hiding any aspect of your relationship from your spouse, meeting after work for social rather than work situations, start moving your conversations from business to personal topics, and specifically, if you start complaining about your real spouse. Or what my old boss did, just hand me $100 for the week and he was kind enough to have that include my lunch too since i was doing the work. Kid does not get hints at all but is great with explicit directions and stated expectations. If they are fairly new and the most junior and its an established custom that everyone covers the CEO, they might get a lot of side eye and silent judgement if they just up and ask. If we substitute the race and gender, it sounds like a pretty harsh and jarring assessment of someone, doesnt it? I offered other employees to start taking turns to show their appreciation. Sure, but we all get used to stuff happening automatically in our livesI have to remind my parents to feed the cats breakfast when Im away from home because theyre used to me doing it before they get up and occasionally forget that Im out of town and not just at work. Sowhy choose the more expensive option? should you bring your lunch on your first day of work? It could be along the lines of I like our lunches together, its just that I noticed I get asked to handle the organizing of orders a lot of the time. Not a boomer (presumably anyone over 45 these days) but I had no idea what Venmo is until I just looked it up there! Friendly or professional lunches are more than okay with your male coworker. Whether a problem employee, an annoying coworker, a spouse who doesnt read your mind try using your damn words. When a girls says "I'll let you know" what does it mean? 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