But even when you were in, the fear never left you. Or only have a drink twice a season. Id rather have my memories than a huge bank balance. Being Tottenham, I came unstuck several times against the herd back in the 1980s, I still recognise some of the faces in the pictures, they were game as you like back in the day, even bumped into several of them and renewed acquaintances again in a cup semi final at Old Trafford in 2001 !!! It is naive to think football still doesn't provide an opportunity for a ruck it does. What we have is a decreasing minority of quite well-organised groups seeking disorder with like-minded individuals a long time before and after the game. I hear some shit about all this name origin palaver and struggle to get my head around the real truth! For anyone reading this wanting to know the real coup about the 80s Arsenal firm-the best era of fv and fashion, we called ourselves Gooners in 1981 after the yids started calling us Goons, forget what all the idiots say about it,or the EIE bit-it dont mean anything, another one Ds inventions as out firms supposed leader, fuck off, we had 30+ much tastier than him but he liked to put himself about, call it a complex thing or whatever, Binnsy and co (the proper AFC firm left over from Hoys era) thought he was a cunt, quite rightly so.Every copper in England knew D as did every mob, what fun is that ?, he liked the attention too much and took the heat with his mob as we slipped under the radar. Ipswich away climbed up the roof and p.ssed on them home fans . [1] The same year, he was referenced in a flashback scene in the film Fever Pitch. Hard. And the recent rash of hooligan memoirs such as The Football Factory and England Away has produced almost 100 kick-lit books name-checking more than 150 hooligan firms; two of the publishing houses dominating the hit-and-tell genre, Headhunter Books and Pennant Books, are run by former hooligans: Chelseas Martin King and West Hams Cass Pennant. One of Manchester Uniteds former top boys (now a Buddhist) runs a significant chunk of Ibizas wholesale food supplies. ", Wally, who has now retired from the frontline and says he prefers to watch Birmingham City from an executive box, concurs. Without realising it, it was the beginnig of an early 70s Arsenal ave it rennaisance. ", Strict policing ensured the Leeds v Millwall match went off without major disorder but there has been plenty of football-related trouble this year, Original reporting and incisive analysis, direct from the Guardian every morning, Millwall supporters are escorted by police officers before the Championship match against newly promoted Leeds United at Elland Road. While trouble can still flare around high-profile games, the preferred location for fighting and disorder is away from stadiums, with British Transport Police reporting a 49% increase in arrests year on year, and 83 banning orders issued for incidents on the rail network in 2008-09, the latest season for which details are available. Photograph: Craig Brough/Action Images. Although He was leader of one of the Arsenal's hooligan firms during the 1980s. "It is coke now that's always about. Mid to late 70s you had some numbers up for it around Highbury but you cant say you went to the lane and won. Friendships across club boundaries, forged through following England abroad, involvement in extreme right-wing politics and joint criminal enterprises have thus enabled Arsenal thugs to persuade up to 200 others to help them cause mayhem. But I would say the Herd for gathering together all those rival British firms for that surprise attack at the battle of Copenhagen. Read our, {{#verifyErrors}} {{message}} {{/verifyErrors}} {{^verifyErrors}} {{message}} {{/verifyErrors}}. England's main rivals in the bidding process are Russia, where football hooliganism is a far bigger problem. How damaging does Thomas think any problems might be to England's hopes of hosting the tournament? The minute we think we've got it under control there will be trouble. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply. Call yourselves fans? Remember all the boys, including Denton. When using the terms hooligan and casuals its important to tread with care. by Propa_Nutcase Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:21 pm, by Royal Gooner Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:28 pm, by Propa_Nutcase Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:50 pm, by Propa_Nutcase Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:56 pm, by DiamondGooner Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:01 pm. Less than a fortnight ago, Danny Scriven, a 26-year-old postman, and 21-year-old Kali Hagenstede two members of the Tottenham firm the Yid Army were jailed for 15 months and given six-year banning orders (keeping them away from football matches) for being part of a 20-strong mob that smashed up The George, a pub in Holloway used by Arsenal's firm the Herd, after Spurs lost the north London derby last October. WebThe term Gooner is widely believed to have stemmed from the Goon Squad, a well-known Arsenal hooligan firm in the 1970s. Im in my 60s & gotta justify what happened back then. And 30 lads you know who wont give an inch no matter if well outnumbered than 200 to 300 who may disappear when it goes off. Daintiness, Ba***ls, DM, R*s*i, Ginger etc all well respected lads. We look out for each other.". "It would need a culture change. "Through our investigations, we have identified a large number of those responsible and they are now facing the very serious consequences of their actions. Now it's the first arrest and a three-year ban, minimum. Have something to tell us about this article? On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. The soldiers are Arsenal fans in a regiment stationed in the South-West and have caused problems at some of the London side's recent European games. After we went down then the first season back up, 78-79 we took a huge mob to Highbury and managed to take at least 3 quarters of The North Bank. About 20 of them went to our risk pub, which is normally frequented by our hooligans, and attacked normal Saturday night punters. Police reported only seven arrests, which was seen as a triumph. Terrified families with children were left trapped inside the pub as the violence raged. Precisely how active they are is difficult to gauge. On the way out of the game it was a similar situation. Wanker you know f**k all you werent about with the yid firm otherwise you would know how from early 80s to mid 90s you did nothing, we loved playing you as we used to love walking down your High road untouched & giving it to you, also from around 82/83 you were scared to come into the Northbank once we got ourselves a good mob your bullying days were over and you couldnt stand it & yes we did give it to all the other London firms in that time as for your Chelsea mates laughing well thats bullshit because we done them on numerous occasions so theyre like you either in denial or you werent there just a keyboard warrior. 10 AM - 9 PM. 80's Arsenal had a very big hooligan following, for a time probably the top one in London and one of the few to take it to places up north. Boys Own magazine, launched in 1988, was also a product of the football/rave fusion, led by the DJ and Chelsea casual Terry Farley. Some are as old as 65. Stephen Armstrong meets the die-hard fans who raised their game, Chelsea and Cardiff City fans clash with police on the King's Road, 2010, Running with the herd: David Walliams and Matt Lucas attend the funeral of Dainton, 'The Bear' in 2007, Cooligans United: Noel Gallagher with a Manchester City top in 2000. Reservations are accepted at Matt the Millers Tavern via Open Table. cos you reckon your a Yid and you got chelsea mates,you obviously aint from the manor cos no real yid would have chelsea mates and you aint ever been involved so fuck off with the bunny you soppy little cunt.Your all over youtube giving it then deleting your comments out of embarrassment not because you might incriminate yourself cos you aint ever done fuck all.Cos no cunt wanks off over your mob from the 80s cos it didnt exist must grate you which is why you spend so much time online talking bollocks.We came to yours 50 handed 4 years ago and embarrassed you,theres videos on youtube of it as proof and I know you seen it cos I see your bollocks written on the comments,Northumberland park your lot bottled.Now fuck off. It's not just whether you can get away with it on the day. WebDanny Miller, a very good friend of Dalntons, gave a really fantastic speech that captured Dainton really well and gave you a real insight into the young Dainton, Neil says. ", But Malcolm Clarke, chairman the Football Supporters' Federation, claims that banning orders are draconian. 2023 GRV Media Ltd. All Rights Reserved. Brick Abat I forgot all the other user names you got on youtube but we all know you was never there or part of any yid firm when it mattered, no ghettos in fucking Hertford you soft cunt. But we had intelligence that they might come to the area. Connell had left school at 16 to take up scaffolding and was briefly famous when he gave an interview to Janet Street-Porter claiming to be the first black skinhead on the Arsenal terraces. "You might get a situation where Arsenal risk supporters sit in a pub near a stadium, then they might meet at a transport hub say King's Cross for northern teams in the hope that, even if it's a CCTV-dominated area, we're just not going to find out about it.". So the tales in my book are written by me not some poncey author with no idea about football. Arsenal 's Kieran Tierney has revealed why his Gunners team-mates refer to him as a "hooligan" as he opened up on the club's best and worst dressed players. Ive waited 40 years with being female, kids, career to do a book but mine isnt about Leeds its stories all of which I was involved in or organised not a spotter and run away girls I would be at the front of our firm now all the wannabees writing books claiming to be top boys etc have calmed down. Contents 1 Matt Buckner 2 Pete Dunham 3 Tommy Hatcher 4 Hooliganism was rife in British football in the 1970s and 1980s, a period in which many clubs had at least one firm. From 74-75 onwards they just disappeared, never worked out why as Arsenal still had a great team. I remember showing up one week in Tacchini, feeling proud of my label and seeing three top boys come round the corner in Burberry jackets, wearing deerstalker hats and carrying walking sticks, and realising Tacchini was over. Lived around finsbury pk for some of it. That is still the case at Shite Hart Lane to some degree, so why should West Hams notorious psychos pay Arsenal fans little heed these days?It may have something to do with how these people rate the other hooligan firms. Arsenal had a good firm in the 80s probably the best they have ever had, you had some game fellas, I wont name them, but apart from your visit to the bull and one year in the clock end thats as good as you got, on matchdays it depends who you come across, sure you might have had it with some of ours and had a result, but I have never heard any of our main boys or my Richmond boys ever being as you put it smashed. cos the NB done fuck all anywhere when it mattered, not even at home,they couldnt even defend their own end when it was invaded and taken a number of times in the early 80s,they were a fucking embarrasment,shirter shit cunts who deserved a fuckin slap for being total cunts and football stat full kit wankers,we had no time for any cunt like that-which is why none of us go anymore-the place is chocka with Arsenal tv shirter arseholes. Dont need to give different names on YT either. Basically when football He says: "The number of incidents has gone up and so are our prosecutions. The Two Stories Behind the Meaning of E-I-E. I bow to your greater knowledge. Later in his life he served as a bodyguard , minder and manager to the Pet Shop Boys , appearing on We go out together, drink together, go to weddings and funerals, and are in business together. Fk it, who cares? Since then, the boys from the terraces have grown up and out into culture, making music, writing books, producing films, television, theatre and fine art. It was no business school, but you learned a lot. ES. Privately, the FA, BTP, the police on the ground and the government understand they have to remain wary. The ICF ended up running the pirate radio acid house station, Centre Force. In the band's early years, Connell worked as a minder for Madness. The improvements in stewarding, appropriate policing, state-of-the-art CCTV systems and the efforts of clubs and leagues have added greatly to making football a fan-friendly environment.". Since then troublemakers from the other four British clubs, including members of the infamous 'Chelsea headhunters' gang, have agreed to join forces. To have been made. (Trailer) BloodlineVision Follow Who is Ian Davies, attempts to explore his rise from middle class kid from Broadstairs to Arsenal (the Herd and the Gooners) hooligan The Scot has become a firm favourite with Arsenal fans and team-mates alike since making the 25million move from boyhood club Celtic back in the summer of 2019. On January 13 at Blackfriars Crown Court, they were each given football banning orders ranging from five to eight years and prison sentences totalling nine-and-a-half years. A group of men were later charged with violent disorder after being identified through CCTV footage. Everythig i put in yt is truth as i saw it If you dont like it too bad. The Arsenal firm were known as the Gooners from 1980 til about 1985 when we renamed ourselves the Herd so they are the same firm with the same faces,lots of top boys in these photos,so you are very wrong in your write up. A bloodthirsty alliance of British hooligans - including serving soldiers - is out to avenge last month's murder of two Leeds fans by provoking violence at Wednesday's Uefa Cup Final, say police. The Herd. Some believe it was inevitable. The hooligan problem and football violence that just won't go away Strict policing ensured the Leeds v Millwall match went off without major disorder but there My Lancashire colleague knows who they are and I asked about Arsenal's risk supporters' intentions. It's the height of disrespect in the hooligan world to turn over the opposition's pub. [1][3][7], In 2009, a plaque dedicated to Connell near the Emirates Stadium was removed by Islington Council, despite opposition from fans.[8]. Never been near hertford so your little dig means fuck all to me. Tottenham had a huge firm in the 70s and 80s but there were certainly other huge firms aswell but The Gooners werent one of them. You ask any ex-hooligan what the best drug theyve ever used is and I guarantee they will say football violence.. Arsenal 1-0 Manchester City (6th Feb. 1971) Watch on Arsenal v Man City 1970-71 with Bob McNab interview and Jimmy Hills analysis of Charlies passing Charlie could play both upfront or as an attacking midfielder just behind The front two of John Radford and Ray Kennedy. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. I'm honestly trying to decide if Proper Fruitloop is the worst poster on this site, or if S&W and Maradonaitis positions are safe. Arsenal very well respected in the 80s. I still get my rocks off when we walk outside the station, theres 40 or 50 of us, theres police all around I feel 10 foot tall. Peter is a football hooligan but hes not the stereotype of a drunken England fan smashing up a stadium; he keeps himself fit, loves his wife and daughters and works in a senior position in television. Arsenal Herd and Gooners then and now! There were 48 arrests, and 60 people thrown out of the ground. Among those mourning his death in a Moscow car crash were the former Arsenal players Ian Wright and Lee Dixon, Frank Bruno, Pet Shop Boys Chris Lowe and Neil Tennant, the Madness frontman Carl Smyth, the artist Sam Taylor-Wood, Janet Street-Porter, Matt Lucas and David Walliams. They hunt in packs, fuelled by cocaine, hooked on violence and occasionally wielding chains. Our intelligence is better than ever. YetI honestly think a kind of kinship has developed between the two clubs.So why should that be? Sign up for exclusive newsletters, comment on stories, enter competitions and attend events. It is probably to do with the fact that West Ham fans hate Tottenham, Chelsea and Millwall so much that they dont have time to hate Arsenal as well. [2] The Herd's two most notorious clashes were with Millwall fans at Highbury in 1988 and with Galatasaray fans in City Hall Square, Copenhagen in 2000.[3][4][5]. Going off track no place for women in big Misters football as pundits when theyve never played..I can as Ive only Played in boys then mens teams so no what a sliding tackle shoulder charge Julian dicks style, or a hospital ball with psycho. he got spanked, he got sparked by some little Leeds chap on the pavement on Avenell rd once in about 1980 cos the Leeds fella didnt run, quite the opposite, he turned and run at Denton and I saw Ds face drop, before he got dropped-Leeds were laughing at him, calling him all sorts, I was embarrassed for the cunt. These days football violence is more likely to be meted out by successful media types, bankers and businessmen than rangy kids from council estates. A spokesman said: 'This sounds extremely serious and would not be condoned in any way by either the MoD or the civilian police.' Well I am too young to remember the hooligan firms in their prime. Polish fans attacked Arsenal fans recently during a pre-season friendly and a lot of countries have problems. What about your meet at Seven sisters in 81-82?,1000 of you mobbed up to take the north bank-we got wind of it through our mutuals -you wouldnt know them cos your a cunt, 80 of us came to you before you landed and smashed your yid army, most didnt make it to the match, you definitely didnt take the north bank that day. The local pub has gone, the community has gone, all youve got is your firm and its only another firm that can understand that. Of course there is a very small minority of individuals who will cause disorder on occasion and we have strong legislation in place to deal with these people. You can opt-out at any time by signing in to your account to manage your preferences. Never hears anyone calling them the herd till this year just laughed theres gooners and just Arsenal fans, Ive seen Denton go on his arse a few times. During the season, we prosecute about 20 a week everything from a caution or fixed penalty notice to putting them before the court. Summed it up precisely, Mucca! When he says Millwall vs West Ham, hes not talking about the teams on the pitch, hes describing the hooligan clash. Dainton Connell (14 February 1961 5 October 2007), known as "Denton" or "The Bear",[1] was an English former hooligan. The Herd, the other Arsenal firm, was mainly active between the late 1970s and early 1990s, although the Herd still exist today, they now prefer to stay undercover. The last time I was out it was towards Surrey Quays, Millwall vs West Ham, says Ian, a media lawyer and member of West Hams Inter City Firm (ICF). Who is brave enough to ID the origins of the creation of the name Yids? Arsenal v Leeds in early 80s. Going liverpool 80 handed. Cocaine is the choice of a modern-day hooligan. - Riot With Style And even more coroagous? A means of using style to transform yourself, he says. You are talking my youth. Smashed it lad if you know you know the clown youve just shown up aint been in a proper firm we never had top boys at Leeds I the 80s no phones so it was word of mouth but if you recognised the faces next to you and no matter how many of usvtheyd stand against anyone in crew neck and samba or an Arnani t shirt and trimm trabb..misspent youth not ! You did have numbers but so did we but we both had a smaller group who slipped away from the hangers on. Scroll down to select your location and preferred date/time. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. Spurs have always pretty naughty. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. Haha ok then. But the spate of recorded incidents since May and ongoing intelligence work by the authorities indicate the police still have a big job on their hands every week. Gotta go with it. A teenager told the Standard: My nan, auntie and her kids were in the back of the Wetherspoon when fans ran in flipping tables around. Even the opera singer (and Oxford graduate) Mark Glanville confessed to years clashing on Millwalls terraces in his autobiography Goldberg Variations. Ian Davies, who once adorned the front page of the Daily Mail as Britains richest football hooligan now runs a wine bar in Dorsets Sandbanks, one of the most expensive areas of real estate in the world. If you knew the score back then as you claim to youd know thwre was loads of little firms down tottenham back then. ", Fifa's inspectors visit England this week to run the rule over the 2018 World Cup bid. But many times we rucked other firms He never followed the gooners at first, he had his own very handy crew, a bit of a loner at first about 18 then. Copy of White Mens CP Company artowork football hooligan fashion fight clobber jacket smart casual Classic T Those lads knew how to get stuck in. ( not guilty m lord. And youre telling me i werent involved when it mattered. Thats what the buzz is like. The Herd had a few main rivals back in the day of football hooliganism and still in the present day, these are the Tottenham Hotspurs Yid Army, West Hams ICF, Chelseas Headhunters and Millwalls F-Troop (now known as the Millwall Bushwackers). [1], Connell died aged 46 in a car crash in Moscow in October 2007. Each email has a link to unsubscribe. A family friendly restaurant, And I werent part of any yid firm when it mattered? Also very doubtful you bashed west ham and chelsea as they were prob worse than spurs. Over 40 years later! They've read the books, want to buy the clothes and they've heard the reputations of their dads and uncles.". Each email has a link to unsubscribe. Anyway fuck off you foreign cunts putting up this bollocks you know nothing about,delete it you absolute grade 1 cunt.
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