Maybe counseling would help. In six years I have probably bought 50 phones thats how many times he has broken and lost his phone lost his wallet at least 20-30times. Im glad you found my blog. How do we know, though, if its ADHD creating this undesirable response or something else? What are you doing.. 5. Computing all this I then said. And the rest of the house was the old paint and just the subfloor with Kilz primer applied because between the walkthrough and us moving in, they let their dog pee all over and we had to rip up the new carpet they had installed. One of many examples.. but I dont argue, I dont fight back, I silently just do something else that removes something happy for me to not cause discomfort for him 19 years together. As we left, I was still groggy. The answer is.they need their OWN large room!!! So rather than calling our regular doctors office, he called his ADHD brother, who was a general practice medical doctor at the time (hes since left the medical profession to become a blueberry farmer something much better suited to his ADHD). Sometimes validation starts the path toward healing. That hed never be able to listena marvel to her and me that hed been able to attain his PhD. Not to mention the amount of resentment that has built up has completely turned me off from him Before the break up, he was blaming me that it was all my fault. A relationship involving someone with ADHD is never easy, but by no means is it doomed to failure. She abandoned our business, left all the household bills for me, and started a new life without a single explanation. My reply: youre a software engineer. Bullying is a part of my PTSD and invalidation, especially when there is a power imbalance (as is the case in abuse), is my single biggest trigger. We really couldnt get anyone with ADHD treated if they themselves wont let us help them. Nothing about what you did sounds horrible to me. For my husband and I, we are at a much better place now. You do high level design work! We really must take responsibility for our own health and happiness, because no one is going to do it for us. But over time, the risk is getting so worn out and hurt, they dont know which way is up anymore. On top of that Saturday will be my last day employed as my remote position is being move to the office 5 states away and I cant just leave her with no support. At what point is not doing some action intentionally to follow through not intentionally hurting me?!!! If you havent already, I encourage you to read my first book. There are just so many issues. Step 2. I feel the same way toward the folks in my local Adult ADHD group. Connie, what you said is 100% what I am also experiencing, but instead of 18 months, its closer to 3 years. She wont even let me see her (4weeks and counting) she changes in the other room. Within a month we were sleeping in separate rooms. You cannot control whether or not he agrees to get help for his issues but you can decide what you are going to do about his actions(or lack thereof). Last I checked, there was ONE masters-degree program in mental health that covered ADHD. I too have BPD and am beginning to suspect my husband has ADHD he has an appointment in a couple of weeks with a psychiatrist to find out. It might even have been comfortable. But the same as other ADDers, he is not very patient and easy to get irritated. How ADHD Affects Friendships. Im sorry, but thats beyond the pale. She detached from our friends, our neighbors, all responsibilities, and refuses to acknowledge any of these actions. I just knew. He gave me something made me fight the idiot who thought skating was dangerous and my board was a toy that could be taken away. One day they are a part of your life, and the next day they disappear from it without warning. Once home, I staggered to the bed and fell asleep. How can someone just say.nothing? My friends say he will call, just give him a few days or a week. Medication might not create improvement in this area right away. He said, You are a very lucky lady. Oh Erin. Im glad im not the only one whos gone thru the same thing. Most people have had a SO break up with them because something about the person was unbearable to that particular SO. Speaking while angry causes damage to your partner and the relationship. She was forthcoming in expressing her appreciation for my personality, and the ease of the relationship, like puzzle pieces. Why? They dont know the science. And my husband didnt know much about this guy, but he hugged me. You are gifted and creative. I encourage you never to apologize for taking care of yourself. My ex boyfriend and I broke up 14 days ago. To combat all this confusion and misdirection, my co-author and I spent five years developing and writing a couple-therapy model for ADHD. I would urge caution about researching on the Internet. Ive tripped and bashed my toes many times on crap laying around or had to move something out of the way to squeeze through. We take each person as they come, seeing that person and not a stereotype of ADHD. Gina, reading your story in this post really resonated with me, powerfully, painfully. Id also add codependency/cptsd to my list of isms as well. Ive learned this through my local Adult ADHD group. I have gotten a prescription and am on meds now. Gathering data. It might explain some of it but the next step for that person should be addressing it, not ignoring it and inflicting it on others. Call a hot line. Oh, I respond, What can you say? No more. This sends the message that the new partner is the center . Most were disappointed that the therapist had nothing to offer in the way of getting through to their ADHD partners. The relationship is toxic, in the sense that they check on each other's locations all the time, call/text incessantly til one answer, and at times, he . They also imply and so does a plethora of websites by non-experts claiming expertise that they are responsible for the so-called parent-child dynamic. Metaphorically. The main symptoms of ADHD impulsiveness and the need for constant stimulation can enhance, as well as threaten, relationships. Its really nuts. Dr. Do I sound hyperbolic? The simplicity of it has been a great help to him. Knowing he has ADHD has really helped me to be more compassionate to him and I am learning how to use his love language whenever he is in imminent danger of a meltdown. As he comes in, and in my half asleep state, Im thinking get up and check the garage. I fell back asleep and woke up around 1:00am to find the garage open. What I discovered since that (shocking) phone call was, yes, seeking therapy is a good thing. You are obviously strong and have been taking care of so much. Until I um the first official diagnosis was you jacked up your knee and when I asked how Id get myself to the train station, the doc asked if I have a bike. Im feeling anxious and sad most of the time and close friends have started to comment along with my grownup kids. :-). But its a problem, and I made sure to address the problem in my book. But you said something very interesting that Ive not seen anywhere else in an article. But one can go on fighting battles, one after another, without sufficient recovery time, only so long. Especially when youre the one being broken up with. He made some comment about how I wasnt showing gratitude for all the support hed shown thus far on the trip, and how he just wanted to confirm plans with this friend for when we got back, and how that was reasonable for him to expect. If you are to add any sort of hint of: lets get back together, I feel that trying to force a reconciliation is in extremely bad taste at this point and will taint the message. The public largely cannot imagine how an intelligent scientist can experience such problems in the rest of life. I cried and I went off on him, but I kept it controlled. Is It You, Me, or Adult A.D.D.? I cant promise it. And thats good enough for now. . For themselves or their ADHD partners or couple therapy. Let me preface this with my daughters father (the one I am trying to end it now with) I am pretty sure that he also has ADD, but a different type than myself and our daughter. My co-moderator is a fast talker but not a fast thinker. Yes, I can explain the range of alternate explanationsfor example, how ADHD neurobiology can interfere with even the most compassionate persons ability to organize appropriate responses. They want them to feel responsible for the problems. Twenty-year-old Orla Irvine ( @orla14i) of Belfast, Ireland, posted three videos on TikTok that show her getting ready to end her relationship. How can I get her to understand the effects of ADHD on my behavior and relationships? Eventually I invested in a GoPro so I could just record what I was looking at. I was the AD/HD Partner Diagnosed about three years ago and medicated. I showed up to my freshman dormroom with skateboard in hand Hes never been critical about my skating, a bit concerned when I started using my longboard to get to the train when he was uncomfortable with me having a bike because its dangerous here. Receive Gina Pera'saward-winning blog postsand news ofwebinars and workshops. I have done tons of research I am trying to be very understanding but I can only express my needs so many times that this family needs him to be here and his attention on us, Not helping his buddy out not starting projects. So how can I take what I read and listened to and apply it to my relationship (now former relationship)? Ask your questions for your own sense of closure if he is done. For many ADHD-challenged relationships, proper education and treatment can make a big difference. This is so helpful as my marriage is quickly unraveling. But I have been really looking for information on how to heal from the relationship or Im not even really sure how to word what Im looking for. Ive told him some of the pretty bad ongoing symptoms I have, [I dont think I complain too much] , and his response is usually NO WORDS! In relationships, especially post breakup, it's important to make space for both perspectives. Keep reading and learning! Having all that freedom to do what he wants while you pick up the pieces isnt something hell give up easily, I imagine. Like hell. They are trying to make sense of it on the fly. By the time we learn, however, we are often so exhausted and depleted, with our own motivation, initiation, and cognition decimated, it can feel like a paralysis. Try not to react when negative emotions are strong. Sooooo yeah thats the story about the hole and I am quite sure I did not take my Concerta like I was supposed to a couple hours ago cuz just lol look where I ended up. Youve heard that ADHD treatment can improve functioning. Dont take a gamble that another mental-health professional who doesnt understand ADHD will play fast and loose with your life. I wish he told me all he really needed was a walk-in closet but before this injury, Im impressed by how much crap I crammed into this tiny room and it was neat and everything was in a place that made sense and no one was allowed in without permission. 8. One could say thats easier than learning how to truly help these couples. Most professionals hadnt received the memo. Going to work and being in my office space is MY control, nobody to tell me what can and cant be put on the desk, decorations, clutter. My husband got silent and I could tell he was angry. And your prescriber either didnt ask about that or.lets face itdidnt care. But its not. Sweeten the deal by offering to let your partner text or read . I spent 30 years working on myself, learning to accept, staying in my own lane etc. I really appreciate your candor and I imagine that being this transparent as well as trying to sort out your feelings about your partners responses have been eye opening and really difficult. Many non-experts claiming expertise are selling easy answersanswers that seem directly targeted to people with ADHD who have little insight to their challenges. Especially when ADHD is neither diagnosed or properly treated. How on earth could it make sense to prioritize not seeing a friend for over six months he wasnt terribly close to as opposed to taking a trip with your wife to confront her childhood abusers? Hello! Instead, I drew upon the more recent memory with Nurse NightinGoat and the reliable Vicodin/ice-cream routine. I just set it up Tuesday, my husband is in there last night and uses up the toner printing an inordinate amount and then says Thats not even what I wanted. (Ummm Couldnt you look at the screen to determine that BEFORE you hit print? Those three years were spectacular: we fell deeply in love, we had great communication and intimacy, and we had a lot of fun together. Unfortunately while these scenarios are exactly what we experience hes uninterested in considering that this could be a basis for our problems. Of course it doesnt work that way, and I had to explain that to him. If youre in the UK, Adderall XR (not IR) is an option, as is Vyvanse, Dexedrine, and several methylphenidate products unique to the UK. The last chapter in my first book (Is It You.) I think its safe to say that no one knows this territory better than I do, from all sides. Hi Danielle, It had too many disorders and baggage to heal and sort out. http://adhdrollercoaster.com/private-consultations-with-gina/. Confusion tends to keep us frozen and hurt. Chaos in my house is chaos in my mind and Im about to lose my mind. What are you doing? Furthering the, Im crazy scenario. Goat! I called, I just had a bad fall!. With understanding, we can start creating better boundaries, seeing context, and taking care of ourselves. Sigh I started a reply, found Im in another site that doesnt have a draft/cache feature, so I lost it. On our own. Too many times I think its one thing, go all out on that, but completely miss the boat on what she really needs. communicating during a conflict. I was already being cautious and really using it as a mobility aid and between the injury and diagnosis, and during that time I built up a solid track record that was indisputable. I finally got to my feet and limped Quasimodo-like back to my office, calling out as I went. Gradually, our own ADHD relationship dysfunction improved. I was so horrified and in despair. I do not rely on him for my care, kids care, house care, animal care, etc. He hates it, I hate it, but if he cant function without being told, reminded, prompted and held accountable, then he cant follow through. I, obviously, didnt intend it that way. Not only does it destroy your self-esteem and . ), never asking to spend time together (though usually agreeing when I asked), moody and more.. His attention was focused on showing you around the shop, and he couldnt transition to the guy falling through the roof. And the only one then and since to comprehensively describe Adult ADHD, particularly the late-diagnosis complications, the evidence-based treatment strategies, the nature of denial and getting past it, and the potential effect on the partners. Nope. And it feels malicious I know its not but the fact that he wont get help makes me feel like this is his choice To make my life as difficult as possible..And I have spent so much time and effort trying to understand and help him and I feel like this man understands nothing about me and doesnt even know me And isnt even interested in doing so. I discovered your book on adult ADD in trying to help my 12 yo son. I swore Id just been depressed for a while, and it had caused the problems, and the ADHD meds wouldnt help. We really, really need them. My husband is not hyper but must have ADD. What are the rules of a break up with one person as a non-ADHD and the other is ADHD? I could sense something was wrong (woman's intuition) and asked him whether there was something he wanted to tell me a couple of days after the party, to which he said no. One phenomenon Ive noticed: Many Adult ADHD specialists act very protectively toward their clients. I didnt know that blogs could have a draft/cache feature. We were in a relationship for 8 months; I know he loves me and I do love him to death. I would describe . This does make things easier, and for the first time, Im able to step back and see things from her perspective instead of simply wondering why she changed her personality and now finds me to be unreliable and emotionally unavailable. As a result, I felt helpless, hurt, duped, and frightened. I have to be the one to tell my 5 kids, that I am sick and cannot help them. Thanks so much for your comment. Ive been telling him I am lonely for the last year and a half. conduct disorder, antisocial personality disorder, autistic-spectrum disorders, and more). Respect your partner's perspective. So then he wanted me to learn everything I could, break the information down into its most basic points, and explain it all to him. How is that not organization?. How can I leave him alone for 1, 3, or 6 weeks? The guy was going to get the cable company to take care of everything and get a plumber in there etc. Over the years Ive taken on the smarter, parent role and I know that M feels bad about it. Say that you cannot continue doing this. I stay silent and have learned to not depend on my husband for any appt making, or taking(the kids), no honey do list, no expectations or requests. In 2009 I lost both my marriage and my career, and have been trying to pick up the pieces ever since. I am 28 and my adhd partner is 26. This is so key for ADHD-challenged individuals and couples. Not knowing how to do better. The day I got sick he was out with his friends. Im so glad I found your blog and have just ordered your first book. lol! My new wife was not a neat freak, but was an orderly person who needed a much more organized environment than I did. They arent not. Im a bit of a pack rat, with regular purges. Thats it. Yes, Ive hard-earned the status of ADHD Expert from my own original research and writing. Get your ducks in a row. So, you hold out hope against all evidence. I wish I had seen it 12 years ago when I was struggling with the same basic issues that the writers here describe with such sorrow. Im really struggling with this. . . When I FINALLY figured out if giving him the master bedroom in a huge house as his office and he could make as much of a mess as he wants in there but keep it to his room left us with a hole he cut in the floor in another bedroom with the promise to make a hatch within 2 weeks and that room empty the entire time we owned that house (a friend fixed the subfloor for us lol) and in the end, his clutter gradually spread until I was begging him to JUST KEEP HIS CRAP OFF THE COUCH. Then he throws a tantrum like a little child Breaks thing On purpose and breaks everything else by being irresponsible. diagnosed 4 time ADHD, have pre-occupied/disorganized attachment; my wife is more dismissive/disorganized By this point I was already . 1) COVID pushed marginally coping situations into the danger zone, and if only she understood, as the super caring, attentive, loving person she is, we could have worked together through this. Curious about RSD/post sex irritability, OMG Gina, thank you, thank you so much. It will taint your message: gratitude and appreciation. I am glad that my post was helpful to you. Weve also had to deal with caring for parents with dementia; its perhaps no wonder that my wife has basically burnt out herself and resorted to self-medication during the pandemic. He sees me as overly negative and if his utterances are any indication, a pest. I reasoned that if I fell ill, it would be so overwhelming that he would not know how to respond or take action. This is especially true if the symptoms of ADHD have never been properly diagnosed or treated. That adults with me. Getting validation for your perception might help you to care less what everybody else thinks and to know that being in this largely unhealthy relationship is not how you want to spend the rest of your life. I absolutely, rapidly unleashed in a tirade of horrible, angry, undeserved text messages and calls, with no thought and absolute un-tempered self-control, then exhausted fell asleep. I have no food or water even, unless I call my 20-year-old son. but these people I was meeting for the first time ABSOLUTELY INSISTED on fixing everything and they did it mighty fast too! You pursued treatment., And, from the sound of it, you . Vyvanse/Elvanse at too high a dose. Have they offered to help? As the youngest of seven much-older children, born when my parents were 46, Ive always been aware that life is short. I am not a naturally jealous person, but I do have a tendency to see the good side of people, and allow their issues to be of greater importance than my own. I very often feel like Im not only in this partnership alone, but that Im somehow beyond alone cause regular loneliness doesnt come with such financial strain and endless conflict. That is just the socially unacceptable but fun negatives. etc. Help us make routines and help us stick to them. I appreciate your letting me know that this blog post resonated for you. There were probably many good reasons that led you to that decision. What Ive found is that the partners of adults with late-diagnosis ADHD become more willing to listen, to learn when their own pain and hurt is acknowledged. When ADHD affects a relationship, in one or both partners, it truly must be a team effort. It was a nice surprise that they were so sensitive when there ARE NO HUMANS when it comes to my tech support request thats been there for like 5 years. Hi Gina, She feels that we individually work and That focus, however, can markedly diminish over time. He is a former drug user, who has used a wide array of hard drugs, and is currently still self-medicating with daily marijuana and alcohol, and although I gave him several chances with the dealbreaker boundaries I set forth from the beginning ( he was honest with me on the first date about SOME of his former drug use, but I found out as time went on that it was MUCH more than what he had told me ). Through my research, I realized I was coping by trying to control him aka co-dependent behaviors in a misguided attempt to feel safe. He has short term memory and is more impressed when a doctor says it than when I do since he has also developed husbands ear, which is not limited to ADHD husbands, where what I say goes in one side and out the other without pausing. I urge you to take care of yourself. He knew I was out of my mind when I told him I thought we were in Denver (we lived in Memphis). But have a cop lie to me and I know it not just because I know more than the below average little kid he made me out to be but because it was so obviously a lie anyone would know? And its all amplified and even weaponized by social media, podcasts, etc.. I dont have to worry about someone else being triggered by a mess or how I do this that or anything. Instead of manifesting as action, the medication seems to exacerbate decision paralysis. And the renovations we wouldve done first werent going to be done anyway in the end because we were quoted half the price at first and thought we could trust the guy (well my husband was the one who knew people) and I thought he knew the area he insisted we move into considering THATS RIGHT WHERE HE GREW UP but he didnt really So my deceased dogs facebook page nailed it. So true! Thank you so much for taking the time to tell me. Our attempts at couple therapy were so disastrous they motivated us to double-down on cooperation. Which I do all right with for the most part. Knowing what else to do (because its in my book) but not wanting to learn or be that directive.. They are out of steamand out of caring. Yesterday, I took a protracted, ungraceful, and painful fall in the garage. This is not offered as a criticism so much as a statement of fact. But my being invisible for so many years and being neglected, has taken its toll. Get on it! She is doing a medication regimen and frequent counseling, and I really appreciate her willingness to take these strides. I texted him that I needed him to come home and that I might need to go to a hospital. The rough portion of the visit went as well as these things can go, no major incident or upset with my family. Thanks for taking the time to write your perspective. Ive gone through hell with this man, and after doing research I get You couldnt tell. Its a very tricky diagnosis. So I stopped taking them, feeling happy and in control but tired. I may add however, that we have been blessed with four children albeit with challenges of childhood cancer in 2008 and late diagnosiss of autism in our two boys. I finally got the clarity that MY emotional needs were important even in the face of his logic. Oh, and ask yourself, why do you remain married to him? Ive seen a marked difference in the last 5 years online. Partner is 26!!!!!!!!!!!! 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